THOU is the subject (Thou art…)
THEE is the object (I look at thee)
THY is for words beginning in a consonant (Thy dog)
THINE is for words beginning in a vowel (Thine eyes)this has been a psa
Also, because H was sometimes treated as a vowel when the grammar rules for thou/thee/thy/thine were formed,THINE can also be used for words beginning with H. For example, both “thy heart” and “thine heart” appear in Elizabethan poetry.
For consistency, however, if you’re saying “thine eyes”, make sure you also say “mine eyes” instead of “my eyes”.
Further to the PSA:
Thou/thee/thine is SINGULAR ONLY.
Verbs with “thou” end in -st or -est: thou canst, thou hast, thou dost, thou goest. Exception: the verbs will, shall, are, and were, which add only -t: thou wilt, thou shalt, thou art, thou wert.
Only in the indicative, though – when saying how things are (“Thou hast a big nose”). Not in the subjunctive, saying how things might be (“If thou go there…”) nor in the imperative, making instructions or requests (“Go thou there”).
The -eth or -th ending on verbs is EXACTLY EQUIVALENT TO THE -(e)s ENDING IN MODERN ENGLISH.
I go, thou goest, she goeth, we go, ye go, they go.
If you wouldn’t say “goes” in modern English, don’t say “goeth” in Shakespearean English.
“Goeth and getteth me a coffee”NO. KILL IT WITH FIRE.Usually with an imperative you put the pronoun immediately after the verb, at least once in the sentence (“Go thou” / “Go ye”).
YE is the subject (Ye are…). YOU is the object.
Ye/you/your is both for PLURALS and for DEFERENCE, as vous in French.
There’s more, but that’ll do for now.
Oh wow. Reblogging for reference.
i haven’t had my coffee yet, so all i can think of when i read through this is:
th’ain’t
th’dstn’t’ve
AND ANOTHER THING
“thee/thou/thy” is informal
“ye/you/your” is formal
Also also…all of this is NOT Old English but is actually referred to as Early Modern English. If you were speaking Old English, it would sound closer to German.^That.
And IT’S NOT MORE FORMAL to use THEE.
if you address someone you should use Thee or Ye (sometime used as the plural, sometimes it’s still Thee, rules are iffy) to as You, it’s an insult by intentional distance. If you call someone you should call You by Thee, it can be an insult via assumed intimacy.
(This is why some religions insist on still using Thee and Thou when talking to their Father God. Many of them modernly think it makes them sound more formal, but that’s not why the usage began, or why the more linguistically aware still do it. Not because it’s more formal, but because it’s LESS formal. You wouldn’t call your own Father “You” unless you wanted to imply disowning Him.)
Anyone you’re close to or on first name terms with can be Thee. Friends, family members, etc.
Anyone you want to point out is NOT your friend, respectfully or otherwise, is You. Which is why the King is still Your Majesty. You are decidedly not his friend unless you know each other really well. (See “Henry V”. If you can also call Henry by Harry or Hal, you can probably call him Thee.
One more note! “Ye Olde- as you see on shop signs is not prounounced Yee. There’s a character called a Thorn that was going out of style and being replaced by a curly thing that looks like a Y and IS NOT. It’s pronounced Th. THe olde apothecary shoppe. Not Ye Olde. That itself promptly went out of style as well but the error remains almost traditional.
and I am not addressing claims that I might be a vampire, lycanthrope, or other immortal just because I am fluent in Modern Middle English.
This whole post is a blessing because I read so much “ye olde” speak in historical stuff and everyone always gets their thee’s and thou’s wrong. Even big name authors with accuracy editors who ought to know better.
It’s more accurate to have your “poor folk” in your historical novel saying “thou” than it is to have the scholar or rich man with an education rooted in Latin, unless he’s down the pub with his mates, merry as a knave.
The whole thing just reminds me of people using Polonius’ speech in Hamlet (“to thine own self be true”), completely out of context, not realizing that the speech is intended to show Polonius as a foolish old hypocrite who enjoys dishing out council but rarely follows his own convoluted advice, which is often contradictory and falsely pious.
Which, I mean, Shakespeare often isn’t taught well outside of higher education, lets be honest. So why would they know unless they’ve studied it beyond the passing glance it gets that one year in high school before been relegated to the position of “too posh and old to be relevant” which is entirely not true.
Shakespeare is written in the language of the people, and is often more insightful and progressive than certain types of academics would like you to believe.
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(western) jews know about christianity bc we’re surrounded by it. it’s pervasive in our lives, whether we want it to be or not (we don’t.) we know how it works because, for many of us, we were led to believe that many aspects of christianity were actually universal, or at least part of a common “judeo-christian” (or even “abrahamic”) system that works in the same way for everyone.
we know all about sin, and about jesus, and about god-as-anthropomorphized-dude-in-sky, and many of us didn’t know that those AREN’T actually part of judaism for a long time, since they are SO entwined in “secular” culture.
so yes, most of us are fully qualified to talk about the differences between christianity and judaism, since one is our religion and the other is forced on us in every conceivable way.
this does NOT mean that christians have the same ability to talk about judaism, since the majority of you don’t know a single fucking thing about it that’s actually true, because why would you?
this is ok to rb but every xtian that adds something stupid owes me $18
Everyone going shopping on Black Friday, be aware of three things:
The retail workers are working 12 hours shifts. We are threatened with losing our jobs if we don’t show up unless we’re dying in the hospital. I had an assistant manager show up with fucking strep because he would’ve been fired otherwise. Yes, he did infect 7 and hospitalize 2 coworkers; who knows how many members of the public he infected.
The stores have, maybe, 5 of that special cheap thing you’re after. Corporate does this on purpose, and stores are not allowed to order enough. The prices aren’t even that much lower. They lie about how expensive something is to fool you into thinking you’re getting a discount. You aren’t.
Most of the workers you will come across will be new hires for the sole purpose of being bodies for about three months before they’re fired. They actually don’t know anything because they’ve been working there for maybe two weeks, and have had no real training. I was once hired at Staples a week before Black Friday and expected to know how to deal with phones, coupons, the online ordering site, and AS400 after five 6-hour shifts. This is the kind of person you will likely be dealing with at Black Friday.
Do me and my retail family a favor and don’t shop Black Friday. Any company that needs a sale day like Black Friday to get their sales out of the red doesn’t deserve to be in business.
This also goes for anyone that works shipment too. We’re suddenly expected to stay as late as they want you to even if they know you don’t have a car and rely on a ride to get you to and from work and know you can’t stay late. Shipment workers will suddenly start getting berated for not getting things done and it is by far the most stressful time to be a shipment worker for any store. Especially when they throw in new hires that don’t know how to process things and are expected to work at the same pace as the people that have worked there for a while.
Retail is shit around the holidays, especially Black Friday
ok fellow millenials, it’s time to kill black friday
LET’S KILL BLACK FRIDAY
As someone who has to work – can confirm. I also think I’m getting sick? Which is hilarious, because I basically have to power through it because of the potential fallout if I don’t show
XKCD’s excellent presentation on historical global temperature and anthropogenic global warming.
[After setting your car on fire] “Listen, your car’s temperature has changed before.”
For the “Earth’s climate has changed before” crowd.
i’m gonna make so many new friends
Ah this must be the bat country I heard so much about
Apparently not many know this and it’s pretty important information
Hey! Did you know that teenagers rib cages aren’t fully formed! Which means sometimes you get a stabbing pain in your lower side, that’s because the unformed cartilage moved and hit a nerve. If you ever get that, try not to breathe to heavily as it irritates it more
you lifesaver
if this is true thank you
OH MY GOD THATS WHAT THAT IS
YO
oH SO I’M NOT DYING
At 22 I learned that my horrible stabby chest pains were also my ribs! It turns out that sometimes they just kinda… detach and float around. So if you hold your arms above your head and breathe deeply you can pop them back into place.
But if that doesn’t work for you definitely see a doctor about your stabby chest pains. You know. In case it’s your heart
OH
S H I T I KNEW THAT WEIRD POPPING HAD TO BE MY RIBS
Age 15, health class: “your bodies are about to go through some weird changes. You’re going to grow body hair and get boners. Some of you will bleed out your hooha”
Actually though: “Your ribs aren’t done forming so sometimes they’re gonna move around in there and it’ll hurt out ofnowhere. Also your brains are undeveloped but you’re allowed to sign contracts and drive cars soon so keep an eye on that. Also there’s teeth you don’t need anymore that might pop in, don’t freak out we have surgery for that”
ok i genuinely did not know about this rib thing i thought it was weird i was getting chest pains at this young an age
I get sharp pains in my ribs and chest and I always just thought it was pinched nerves??? I still get them and I’m 25????
It can happen to adults too. The sternum connects to the ribs with cartilage, which is why sometimes when you stretch, you hear/feel a pop in the front of your chest. Just normal weird body business.
And if there’s pain in the front around the juncture between your second rib(s) and your sternum, that’s costochondritis. You should probably go see a doctor, but it’ll go away on its own.
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